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#1 nikl0718

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Posted 06 February 2018 - 10:42 AM

Disclaimer: I know this broker has been briefly touched upon in other threads. The reason for this post is I don't feel the exposure it has achieved so far on boe matches it's value/potential.

Anyways. I'm by no means an expert in what i'm going to share next, but allow me to try lay a very brief foundation for understanding this new concept.

1. Spectre.ai operates in the blockchain currency Ethereum. This means your trading funds are traded from your ethereum wallet.

 

2. One of the products are binary options by time (5,10,15 mins etc.).

 

3. You're not trading against the broker. Here's how. Spectre.ai facilitates a "liquidity pool". A truckload of cash that you'll be trading against. So, say the traders are beating the market collectively, the pool shrinks, and vice versa. However, the pool is there as an anchor, to facilitate the trades, not to be a cash cow. For cash cow, see pt. 4.

 

4. The money for the platform and investors behind the liquidity, is generated through volume %'s. The platform's interest has therefore been shifted from client losses to trading volume.

There's a lot more that can be said, but my level of knowledge doesn't allow me to ;)

Pls. add anything i've missed, or correct me if something's not quite right.



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Posted 06 February 2018 - 11:08 AM

I think you need to pay them via bitcoins. So these brokers are coming up when cryptocurrencies are getting banned everywhere.


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Posted 06 February 2018 - 01:17 PM


3. You're not trading against the broker. Here's how. Spectre.ai facilitates a "liquidity pool". A truckload of cash that you'll be trading against. So, say the traders are beating the market collectively, the pool shrinks, and vice versa. However, the pool is there as an anchor, to facilitate the trades, not to be a cash cow. For cash cow, see pt. 4.

 

4. The money for the platform and investors behind the liquidity, is generated through volume %'s. The platform's interest has therefore been shifted from client losses to trading volume.

 

 

With BO you are always trading against a pool of fellow traders, never against the house. They are doing nothing new here in that regard. What is new is that they allow you to fund your trade from crypto on a as needed real time basis and not actually hold your funds. So they claim. The glitch in the story is the time it actually takes to facilitate a crypto transfer right now, as well as the cost of each transfer. So they will have to come up with some kind of credit system otherwise with current tech real time transfers do not work (yet). And with that in mind, they will basically be holding your currency for some time in some way in their crypto wallet while skirting the need for financial regulation. The idea is interesting. Still a bit ahead of their time. Not where I would put my money. Not yet. Anyone actively trading with them? Not just demo.

 

If they are so noble, what I would love to see is full transparency in the data feed they are using, a real time MT4 version for that same data feed from which I can trade directly or via EAs, no spreads or changes to that feed of any kind, super fast trade execution, now you're talking! I can dream, can't I.......



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Posted 06 February 2018 - 01:48 PM

Not for me...
@BOedge I disagree with you 1st statement, it has all to do with how you see it: is a half glass half-full or half-empty (and who controls that). And do not distillate statements that do not reflect the reality about how OTC works.
For the rest, blockchain is a tech to watch, for the time being crypto currency is all about having crazy swings and adrenalin.
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Posted 06 February 2018 - 01:51 PM

With BO you are always trading against a pool of fellow traders, never against the house. They are doing nothing new here in that regard. What is new is that they allow you to fund your trade from crypto on a as needed real time basis and not actually hold your funds. So they claim. The glitch in the story is the time it actually takes to facilitate a crypto transfer right now, as well as the cost of each transfer. So they will have to come up with some kind of credit system otherwise with current tech real time transfers do not work (yet). And with that in mind, they will basically be holding your currency for some time in some way in their crypto wallet while skirting the need for financial regulation. The idea is interesting. Still a bit ahead of their time. Not where I would put my money. Not yet. Anyone actively trading with them? Not just demo.

 

If they are so noble, what I would love to see is full transparency in the data feed they are using, a real time MT4 version for that same data feed from which I can trade directly or via EAs, no spreads or changes to that feed of any kind, super fast trade execution, now you're talking! I can dream, can't I.......

how does your identified probs relate to the traders? in other words, does it matter? ;) 



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Posted 06 February 2018 - 02:03 PM

It's definitely not ALL binary, 99.9% are against the house just like a casino which I think everyone discovered quickly.  I sadly just don't know anything about that Spectre at the moment to even be able to comment besides that.  Going to have to look into it more.


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Posted 06 February 2018 - 02:28 PM

I'm very much on the same page as you david. What i shared was simply a few points that i got from chatting with the creators. Digging deeper is another thing :). Main point was just to bring awareness to the existence of them  :)


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Posted 06 February 2018 - 03:01 PM

how does your identified probs relate to the traders? in other words, does it matter? ;)

 

Their selling points are that they are doing something new, something unique, something where they imply that the trader's funds are safer than with a standard broker. Time will tell if that is so. As for the current time, considering the limitations of the tech I cannot see how they can facilitate real time crypto transfers at the speed that is needed. Typical start-up problem - strong vision, delivery potentially critical, although not necessarily impossible. Considering the erratic nature of crypto currencies at the moment, that is a completely different issue altogether. You may lose all your BO gains from the fluctuations of your crypto currency. Until people start buying and selling houses with crypto, calling it a currency is premature anyways.

 

If they were able to generate individual trades via blockchain so that the broker side can not alter outcome or trade history that would be interesting, although it has also been proven in the last few months that blockchain can be tampered with.



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Posted 06 February 2018 - 03:04 PM

Not for me...
@BOedge I disagree with you 1st statement, it has all to do with how you see it: is a half glass half-full or half-empty (and who controls that). And do not distillate statements that do not reflect the reality about how OTC works.
For the rest, blockchain is a tech to watch, for the time being crypto currency is all about having crazy swings and adrenalin.

 

Feel free to disagree, although I have no idea what you mean by that exactly..... but please do reflect on the reality of how OTC works instead.



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Posted 06 February 2018 - 03:55 PM

Well, I’m sorry if I used the wrong wording here, my bad.
I don’t have the energy and time to explain my own knowledge and view about it, because it encompasses many business concepts, but maybe you could it would be appreciated.

And after you do maybe we can compare complaints between otc products and exchanged products on a broker level, just to stay pragmatic like you are. And also discuss about why some states/regions want to drastically reduce the otc penetration into retail ?

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Posted 06 February 2018 - 04:09 PM

No, really, after you...



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Posted 06 February 2018 - 04:39 PM

Their selling points are that they are doing something new, something unique, something where they imply that the trader's funds are safer than with a standard broker. Time will tell if that is so. As for the current time, considering the limitations of the tech I cannot see how they can facilitate real time crypto transfers at the speed that is needed. Typical start-up problem - strong vision, delivery potentially critical, although not necessarily impossible. Considering the erratic nature of crypto currencies at the moment, that is a completely different issue altogether. You may lose all your BO gains from the fluctuations of your crypto currency. Until people start buying and selling houses with crypto, calling it a currency is premature anyways.

 

If they were able to generate individual trades via blockchain so that the broker side can not alter outcome or trade history that would be interesting, although it has also been proven in the last few months that blockchain can be tampered with.

what's the problem with slow crypto transfers? 

yea, the fluctuation prob is real. But, say ETH will remain in an uptrend, and you don't deposit more than once, then the damage would be limited, as the drawdowns caused by fluctuation would only just reset you to your original exchange rate (given it doesn't go lower than when you deposited)



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Posted 06 February 2018 - 06:53 PM

what's the problem with slow crypto transfers? 

yea, the fluctuation prob is real. But, say ETH will remain in an uptrend, and you don't deposit more than once, then the damage would be limited, as the drawdowns caused by fluctuation would only just reset you to your original exchange rate (given it doesn't go lower than when you deposited)

 

Right now your money is with the broker and when you enter a trade the broker system uses the money you have already deposited there, instantly. The way I understand what Spectre is proposing, and that may have changed since I looked at them, is that you do not deposit any funds with them, but rather that funds are used directly from your crypto account. In real life real time trading that would mean that the transfer of funds would have to be instant, and that is simply not the case. Because right now the technology to do that does not exist. Initially they had proposed that they would create a new crypto currency, apparently they have abandoned that. A separate crypto currency created by them would basically have been similar to a broker account that you deposit in, in this case with proprietary tech, which may be difficult to access if they would go belly up. So not surprising that they pivoted from that. 

And if they cannot guarantee instant money transfer and instead you have to wait until money is transferred from crypto into whatever trading entity they develop, then that time lag can be costly. At the moment transfers can take hours. Not good for trading. It will be interesting to see what solution they can  find for this.

 

And the wishful thinking that your crypto will not go below the value when you invested is, well, wishful thinking. You are doing a double trade of sort. The draw of course is if crypto goes up you get a double return. Whoohoo. And then of course there will be a lot of sobbing and whaling when it goes the other way... If there was a crypto currency that was pinned to a real life currency, different story. That may actually come sooner than we may think. There are several countries exploring that. That may actually be the tech to replace cash. The block chain tech has gotten a lot of attention from banks, including central banks. The tech behind Ripple is what banks are drooling over at the moment. Not their currency, their tech.


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Posted 07 February 2018 - 12:11 AM

Right now your money is with the broker and when you enter a trade the broker system uses the money you have already deposited there, instantly. The way I understand what Spectre is proposing, and that may have changed since I looked at them, is that you do not deposit any funds with them, but rather that funds are used directly from your crypto account. In real life real time trading that would mean that the transfer of funds would have to be instant, and that is simply not the case. Because right now the technology to do that does not exist. Initially they had proposed that they would create a new crypto currency, apparently they have abandoned that. A separate crypto currency created by them would basically have been similar to a broker account that you deposit in, in this case with proprietary tech, which may be difficult to access if they would go belly up. So not surprising that they pivoted from that. 

And if they cannot guarantee instant money transfer and instead you have to wait until money is transferred from crypto into whatever trading entity they develop, then that time lag can be costly. At the moment transfers can take hours. Not good for trading. It will be interesting to see what solution they can  find for this.

 

And the wishful thinking that your crypto will not go below the value when you invested is, well, wishful thinking. You are doing a double trade of sort. The draw of course is if crypto goes up you get a double return. Whoohoo. And then of course there will be a lot of sobbing and whaling when it goes the other way... If there was a crypto currency that was pinned to a real life currency, different story. That may actually come sooner than we may think. There are several countries exploring that. That may actually be the tech to replace cash. The block chain tech has gotten a lot of attention from banks, including central banks. The tech behind Ripple is what banks are drooling over at the moment. Not their currency, their tech.

expensive you say. The platform would just execute it temporarily on your behalf and then funds arrive later. Is that how it would work? that would not bother the traders..



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Posted 07 February 2018 - 04:27 AM

expensive you say. The platform would just execute it temporarily on your behalf and then funds arrive later. Is that how it would work? that would not bother the traders..

 

Imagine several trades having to be deleted because trader funds never arrived. These kind of circumstance will quickly have people find ways to make that happen. It will the modern version of a bad check. And then the trade is not simply reversed, it is deleted, because without funds arriving they technically never happened. That can be a big problem if those were big trades or a big number of little trades. The whole broker algorithm would no longer work, because despite of what tripack and David say, BO still depends on a pool of trader funds. And if a trader lost several trades and then never pays up, then the broker will go bust pretty fast. That would bother the broker and is a risk they will not take.

 

Money must be in place the moment a trade is executed. The broker would have to have some assurances that the funds are in place and locked in for that transaction, and now we are back to a model where you have to deposit funds with the broker in some way and thus no longer have control over your funds, so nothing new here. The other thing is the actual cost of the transfer itself. Right now, that isn't cheap either.

 

https://www.cnbc.com...or-bitcoin.html



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Posted 07 February 2018 - 05:33 AM

If they don't "care" if you win or lose, then why don't they offer 15s, 30s, 1min, 2m, 3m options and way more assets?



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Posted 07 February 2018 - 05:41 AM

If they don't "care" if you win or lose, then why don't they offer 15s, 30s, 1min, 2m, 3m options and way more assets?

 

In the beginning they need the pool to grow. They talk about it all in a very honest way and say that 70-90% of traders lose money and that's a reality. But at first they offer their platform more limited but then will expand. This also means in the beginning you won't be able to use big $ amounts for trading.

 

In my opinion it's all a great concept but need to see how it works out in reality. Especially with cryptos fluctuating so much it could affect the trading wallet.

 

This is their webinar video where they explain it.

 

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Posted 07 February 2018 - 07:28 AM

With BO you are always trading against a pool of fellow traders, never against the house. They are doing nothing new here in that regard. What is new is that they allow you to fund your trade from crypto on a as needed real time basis and not actually hold your funds. So they claim. The glitch in the story is the time it actually takes to facilitate a crypto transfer right now, as well as the cost of each transfer. So they will have to come up with some kind of credit system otherwise with current tech real time transfers do not work (yet). And with that in mind, they will basically be holding your currency for some time in some way in their crypto wallet while skirting the need for financial regulation. The idea is interesting. Still a bit ahead of their time. Not where I would put my money. Not yet. Anyone actively trading with them? Not just demo.

 

If they are so noble, what I would love to see is full transparency in the data feed they are using, a real time MT4 version for that same data feed from which I can trade directly or via EAs, no spreads or changes to that feed of any kind, super fast trade execution, now you're talking! I can dream, can't I.......

 

Sifting through the myriad of factual inaccuracies in this post I suggest anyone reading this rebuttal to bear in mind that the above poster has very little knowledge of decentralisation and blockchain, and for that matter just knows how centralised B-Book brokers work.

Let’s begin.

Point 1: "With BO you are always trading against a pool of fellow traders, never against the house. They are doing nothing new here in that regard.”

Answer: You have completely misunderstood the Spectre model.

They are doing something revolutionary. It’s called trading against the DALP (decentralised autonomous liquidity pool) which is actually a secured smart contract (series of) that rests and is verified on over 23,000 nodes as opposed to depositing money in the operating working capital account of a binary broker. The latter is the current, broken solution. The DALP - no one has access to and only smart contracts governed by audited code can govern the flow of funds from trader to DALP or back. Also the DALP is tokenised and therefore owned by the masses (literally thousands of sxs2 holders). Your statement btw is wholly inaccurate “With BO you are always trading against the pool of traders, never against the house”. Actually 100% of the time you are trading against the house not other traders. Daweda tried a p2p model, it failed. NADEX is P2P with some “market makers” to fill the gaps but that's DO, not BO. Do you really think you were trading against other traders at Banc De Binary?

Point  2: "What is new is that they allow you to fund your trade from crypto on a as needed real time basis and not actually hold your funds. So they claim. The glitch in the story is the time it actually takes to facilitate a crypto transfer right now, as well as the cost of each transfer. So they will have to come up with some kind of credit system otherwise with current tech real time transfers do not work (yet)."

That’s inaccurate as well. They have a transaction bridge and settlement bridge, this means whether or not you are trading from your offsite CC wallet or onsite private escrow, trade transactions (entry/exit) are recorded on the internal ledger immediately and verified as and when required by the distributed ledger later. So there is no “delay” or “credit” system required. You don’t take the time to understand the product yet you give engineering suggestions, whats the point?

Point 3: "And with that in mind, they will basically be holding your currency for some time in some way in their crypto wallet while skirting the need for financial regulation."

That’s blatantly incorrect. At no point if you are trading from an offsite CC wallet does Spectre hold any funds. If one trades from the onsite private escrow they rest in a secured smart contract which, again if you understood how ERC20 smart contracts work, once unleashed on the chain, they are immutable. You can read the smart contract under NDA, ask their team, you’ll see no one has access to it.

Point 4: "The idea is interesting. Still a bit ahead of their time. Not where I would put my money. Not yet. Anyone actively trading with them? Not just demo."

You can put your money at centralised brokers, no one is asking you to trade in a safe broker-less environment. There are literally as I write this over 6,000 professional traders who have given the Spectre model a thumbs up.

Point 5: “If they are so noble, what I would love to see is full transparency in the data feed they are using, a real time MT4 version for that same data feed from which I can trade directly or via EAs, no spreads or changes to that feed of any kind, super fast trade execution, now you're talking! I can dream, can't I……."

The price feeds are oraclised. Look up ‘oracles’. Nothing is more transparent. They are 3rd party with 3 different sources to ensure integrity and no manipulation AND subject to end of month audit.  Cut the crap about “mt4”. Mt4 is just a skin that connects via API ultimately to a broker that gets their price feed and can massage it as they like. FX is OTC and decentralised there isn’t 1 price feed.



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Posted 07 February 2018 - 07:49 AM

Their selling points are that they are doing something new, something unique, something where they imply that the trader's funds are safer than with a standard broker. Time will tell if that is so. As for the current time, considering the limitations of the tech I cannot see how they can facilitate real time crypto transfers at the speed that is needed. Typical start-up problem - strong vision, delivery potentially critical, although not necessarily impossible. Considering the erratic nature of crypto currencies at the moment, that is a completely different issue altogether. You may lose all your BO gains from the fluctuations of your crypto currency. Until people start buying and selling houses with crypto, calling it a currency is premature anyways.

 

If they were able to generate individual trades via blockchain so that the broker side can not alter outcome or trade history that would be interesting, although it has also been proven in the last few months that blockchain can be tampered with.

 

Point 1: “As for the current time, considering the limitations of the tech I cannot see how they can facilitate real time crypto transfers at the speed that is needed. Typical start-up problem - strong vision, delivery potentially critical, although not necessarily impossible. Considering the erratic nature of crypto currencies at the moment, that is a completely different issue altogether. You may lose all your BO gains from the fluctuations of your crypto currency. Until people start buying and selling houses with crypto, calling it a currency is premature anyways”.

You’re referring to FX risk. That’s why you can convert your gains to dollars with Uphold, they’re teaming up with a major player in the space to do it. You’re not following any material of theirs just spouting out crap and trying to give business advice. Even if they didn’t have it so what, i’d rather have FX risk than broker risk and not get my gains paid out. Where have you been for the last 10 years mate? Which binary broker pays out thousands and thousands and doesn’t shut you out?

Point 2: “If they were able to generate individual trades via blockchain so that the broker side can not alter outcome or trade history that would be interesting, although it has also been proven in the last few months that blockchain can be tampered with.”

They can, their beta already does it in demo either offsite CC or onsite private escrow. You’re trying to position Spectre as some kind of buzzword company - have you considered actually speaking to the owners? Surprise surprise none of them are marketers.  Now you have a legitimate set of folks that are changing the game.

Hope this helps to get better picture of Spectre.ai



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Posted 07 February 2018 - 08:54 AM

Sifting through the myriad of factual inaccuracies in this post I suggest anyone reading this rebuttal to bear in mind that the above poster has very little knowledge of decentralisation and blockchain, and for that matter just knows how centralised B-Book brokers work.

Let’s begin.

Point 1: "With BO you are always trading against a pool of fellow traders, never against the house. They are doing nothing new here in that regard.”

Answer: You have completely misunderstood the Spectre model.

They are doing something revolutionary. It’s called trading against the DALP (decentralised autonomous liquidity pool) which is actually a secured smart contract (series of) that rests and is verified on over 23,000 nodes as opposed to depositing money in the operating working capital account of a binary broker. The latter is the current, broken solution. The DALP - no one has access to and only smart contracts governed by audited code can govern the flow of funds from trader to DALP or back. Also the DALP is tokenised and therefore owned by the masses (literally thousands of sxs2 holders). Your statement btw is wholly inaccurate “With BO you are always trading against the pool of traders, never against the house”. Actually 100% of the time you are trading against the house not other traders. Daweda tried a p2p model, it failed. NADEX is P2P with some “market makers” to fill the gaps but that's DO, not BO. Do you really think you were trading against other traders at Banc De Binary?

Point  2: "What is new is that they allow you to fund your trade from crypto on a as needed real time basis and not actually hold your funds. So they claim. The glitch in the story is the time it actually takes to facilitate a crypto transfer right now, as well as the cost of each transfer. So they will have to come up with some kind of credit system otherwise with current tech real time transfers do not work (yet)."

That’s inaccurate as well. They have a transaction bridge and settlement bridge, this means whether or not you are trading from your offsite CC wallet or onsite private escrow, trade transactions (entry/exit) are recorded on the internal ledger immediately and verified as and when required by the distributed ledger later. So there is no “delay” or “credit” system required. You don’t take the time to understand the product yet you give engineering suggestions, whats the point?

Point 3: "And with that in mind, they will basically be holding your currency for some time in some way in their crypto wallet while skirting the need for financial regulation."

That’s blatantly incorrect. At no point if you are trading from an offsite CC wallet does Spectre hold any funds. If one trades from the onsite private escrow they rest in a secured smart contract which, again if you understood how ERC20 smart contracts work, once unleashed on the chain, they are immutable. You can read the smart contract under NDA, ask their team, you’ll see no one has access to it.

Point 4: "The idea is interesting. Still a bit ahead of their time. Not where I would put my money. Not yet. Anyone actively trading with them? Not just demo."

You can put your money at centralised brokers, no one is asking you to trade in a safe broker-less environment. There are literally as I write this over 6,000 professional traders who have given the Spectre model a thumbs up.

Point 5: “If they are so noble, what I would love to see is full transparency in the data feed they are using, a real time MT4 version for that same data feed from which I can trade directly or via EAs, no spreads or changes to that feed of any kind, super fast trade execution, now you're talking! I can dream, can't I……."

The price feeds are oraclised. Look up ‘oracles’. Nothing is more transparent. They are 3rd party with 3 different sources to ensure integrity and no manipulation AND subject to end of month audit.  Cut the crap about “mt4”. Mt4 is just a skin that connects via API ultimately to a broker that gets their price feed and can massage it as they like. FX is OTC and decentralised there isn’t 1 price feed.

 

 

Point 1: “As for the current time, considering the limitations of the tech I cannot see how they can facilitate real time crypto transfers at the speed that is needed. Typical start-up problem - strong vision, delivery potentially critical, although not necessarily impossible. Considering the erratic nature of crypto currencies at the moment, that is a completely different issue altogether. You may lose all your BO gains from the fluctuations of your crypto currency. Until people start buying and selling houses with crypto, calling it a currency is premature anyways”.

You’re referring to FX risk. That’s why you can convert your gains to dollars with Uphold, they’re teaming up with a major player in the space to do it. You’re not following any material of theirs just spouting out crap and trying to give business advice. Even if they didn’t have it so what, i’d rather have FX risk than broker risk and not get my gains paid out. Where have you been for the last 10 years mate? Which binary broker pays out thousands and thousands and doesn’t shut you out?

Point 2: “If they were able to generate individual trades via blockchain so that the broker side can not alter outcome or trade history that would be interesting, although it has also been proven in the last few months that blockchain can be tampered with.”

They can, their beta already does it in demo either offsite CC or onsite private escrow. You’re trying to position Spectre as some kind of buzzword company - have you considered actually speaking to the owners? Surprise surprise none of them are marketers.  Now you have a legitimate set of folks that are changing the game.

Hope this helps to get better picture of Spectre.ai

 

Thank you for the updates. As I mentioned clearly:  "The way I understand what Spectre is proposing, and that may have changed since I looked at them". Just had another quick look at their website and it has changed considerably. I will look into your comments and their changes. 






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