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@  shaileshm : (17 January 2018 - 12:28 AM) that was only till last year
@  shaileshm : (17 January 2018 - 12:28 AM) i dont think iq gets its feed from rueters anymore
@  Tripack : (16 January 2018 - 05:04 PM) As simple as that :)
@  Tripack : (16 January 2018 - 05:01 PM) See it like a casino based on official weather feeds and you need to make a bet on degree in the future
@  Tripack : (16 January 2018 - 04:58 PM) They can’t manipulate official feeds since it comes from reuters & ebs but the platform about when you can enter etc is all theirs
@  Tripack : (16 January 2018 - 04:53 PM) That is normal
@  Shahram : (16 January 2018 - 03:35 PM) All I know the price are sometimes different from mt4.
@  Shahram : (16 January 2018 - 03:31 PM) Thanks Tripack. Many traders claim that iq option manipulates the trades. I was wondering if it’s true. So far I haven’t seen real evidence.
@  Tripack : (16 January 2018 - 03:30 PM) Enjoy
@  Tripack : (16 January 2018 - 03:30 PM) Translation = regulated casino :P
@  Tripack : (16 January 2018 - 03:28 PM) bin brokers can be regulated all the way they want it will not be retated to how they manage their own platforms, simple...
@  Tripack : (16 January 2018 - 03:26 PM) they do get official feeds, and the platform is fully under their control, so they control the spead up to some extend
@  Tripack : (16 January 2018 - 03:24 PM) but in short I can answer lol
@  Tripack : (16 January 2018 - 03:23 PM) No worries :) search is on top right
@  Shahram : (16 January 2018 - 03:21 PM) sorry guys wrong section. i was planning to search on website
@  Shahram : (16 January 2018 - 03:21 PM) IQOption price manipulation
@  thi4gon : (16 January 2018 - 02:22 PM) Nice, GL
@  Tripack : (16 January 2018 - 02:16 PM) Gotta go in the meantime, good luck
@  Tripack : (16 January 2018 - 02:01 PM) Kind of stuff you can only see without arrows :)
@  Tripack : (16 January 2018 - 01:58 PM) Might be completely wrong but new down channel building up ?

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#21 Edward

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Posted 04 August 2017 - 11:47 PM

I think best system is own experience and no one cant give it for us, we must earn it.

 

I telling this because i feel that all experience already. i have tried more than 1000 of systems in this years. and i won 200% profit some days using some of them. that days i really appreciate who made that systems.

And same days i lost 400% from profit using same system. that days i blame same system that i really appreciate day before. And i left that system and moved to another one.

I did this same thing lot of time in my trading journey. I lost my money,time,family,job all. but i left one thing this all years. that is my trading experience.

 

But i not give up. Finally i turn back to my very mature 1st strategy that i left out long time ago without any success result. What a miracle happend, its working now.

 

"how is this happened ?"  i asked my self. Then i realized that old time i tried this mature system have all same market and tools. What was not, that is my experience.

Finally i had earned it.

 

So to beginners i wanted to tell from my story, never give up and no matter what happen collect that all experiences. But remember don't do same wrong again that you experienced before. And never ever invest money in trading that you cant effort to loss.

 

Regards


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Posted 06 August 2017 - 11:12 AM

Hi friends

 

you can read books on trading psychology by Dr.Ari Kiev -- Trading To Win

PM me I will send.


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#23 ytsarik

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Posted 06 August 2017 - 01:31 PM

Hi friends

 

you can read books on trading psychology by Dr.Ari Kiev -- Trading To Win

PM me I will send.

 

I will! Meanwhile I am reading Trading in the Zone by Mark Douglas. It's a fantastic book really! I can also send it, although it's on the web as well.


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Posted 06 August 2017 - 04:15 PM

I will! Meanwhile I am reading Trading in the Zone by Mark Douglas. It's a fantastic book really! I can also send it, although it's on the web as well.

That's a great book. I also like it. I would recommend to read "The Disciplined Trader" as well. Also by Mark Douglas.
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Posted 08 August 2017 - 11:52 AM

I will! Meanwhile I am reading Trading in the Zone by Mark Douglas. It's a fantastic book really! I can also send it, although it's on the web as well.

Thank you Bro really It is great book.winning state of of mind is great concept . its amazing.


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Posted 27 August 2017 - 01:50 PM

Some thoughts of a genius. From Mark Douglas, The Disciplined Trader

 

The following typical trading errors have a specific cause rooted in a thinking methodology that can be changed. 
1. Refusing to define a loss. 
2. Not liquidating a losing trade, even after you have acknowledged the trade's potential is greatly diminished. 
3. Getting locked into a specific opinion or belief about market direction. From a psychological perspective this is  equivalent to trying to control the market with your expectation of what it will do: "I'm right, the market is wrong." 
4. Focusing on price and the monetary value of a trade, instead of the potential for the market to move based on its behavior and structure.  
5. Revenge-trading as if you were trying get back at the market for what it took away from you.  
6. Not reversing your position even when you clearly sense a change in market direction.  
7. Not following the rules of the trading system. 
8. Planning for a move or feeling one building, but then finding yourself immobilized to hit the bid or offer, and therefore denying yourself the opportunity to profit. 
9. Not acting on your instincts or intuition.  
10.Establishing a consistent pattern of trading success over a period of time, and then giving your winnings back to the market in one or two trades and starting the cycle over again. 
 
Any thinking methodology requires a series of approaches to goals and problems. These approaches might be better described as mental techniques, even skills of thought application. For example, one such skill might be the ability to identify those conditions that are conducive to making a common trading error before it actually happens. Other techniques or skills include: 
1. Learning the dynamics of goal achievement so you can stay positively focused on what you want-not what you fear. 
2. Learning how to recognize the skills you need to progress as a trader and then stay focused on the development of those skills, instead of the money, which is merely a by-product of your skills. 
3. Learning how to adapt yourself to respond to fundamental changes in market conditions more readily. 
4. Identifying the amount of risk you are comfortable with - your "risk comfort level"-and then learn how to expand it in a way that is consistent with your ability to maintain an objective perspective of market activity. 
5. Learning how to execute your trades immediately upon your perception of an opportunity. 
6. Learning how to let the market tell you how much is enough, instead of assessing the potential from your personal value system of how much is enough. 
7. Learning how to structure your beliefs to control your perception of market movement. 
8. Learning how to achieve and maintain a state of objectivity. 
9. Learning how to recognize "true" intuitive information and then learning how to act on it consistently.

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 02:27 PM

Do not rely on other's guidelines, build your own.
I did not research on that guy, but in general you will find that many book writers, system sellers, indicator creators etc do have an extensive record about how many seminars they made etc, but not about how successful they really were trading own money...
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Posted 27 August 2017 - 06:16 PM

 

Some thoughts of a genius. From Mark Douglas, The Disciplined Trader

 

The following typical trading errors have a specific cause rooted in a thinking methodology that can be changed. 
1. Refusing to define a loss. 
2. Not liquidating a losing trade, even after you have acknowledged the trade's potential is greatly diminished. 
3. Getting locked into a specific opinion or belief about market direction. From a psychological perspective this is  equivalent to trying to control the market with your expectation of what it will do: "I'm right, the market is wrong." 
4. Focusing on price and the monetary value of a trade, instead of the potential for the market to move based on its behavior and structure.  
5. Revenge-trading as if you were trying get back at the market for what it took away from you.  
6. Not reversing your position even when you clearly sense a change in market direction.  
7. Not following the rules of the trading system. 
8. Planning for a move or feeling one building, but then finding yourself immobilized to hit the bid or offer, and therefore denying yourself the opportunity to profit. 
9. Not acting on your instincts or intuition.  
10.Establishing a consistent pattern of trading success over a period of time, and then giving your winnings back to the market in one or two trades and starting the cycle over again. 
 
Any thinking methodology requires a series of approaches to goals and problems. These approaches might be better described as mental techniques, even skills of thought application. For example, one such skill might be the ability to identify those conditions that are conducive to making a common trading error before it actually happens. Other techniques or skills include: 
1. Learning the dynamics of goal achievement so you can stay positively focused on what you want-not what you fear. 
2. Learning how to recognize the skills you need to progress as a trader and then stay focused on the development of those skills, instead of the money, which is merely a by-product of your skills. 
3. Learning how to adapt yourself to respond to fundamental changes in market conditions more readily. 
4. Identifying the amount of risk you are comfortable with - your "risk comfort level"-and then learn how to expand it in a way that is consistent with your ability to maintain an objective perspective of market activity. 
5. Learning how to execute your trades immediately upon your perception of an opportunity. 
6. Learning how to let the market tell you how much is enough, instead of assessing the potential from your personal value system of how much is enough. 
7. Learning how to structure your beliefs to control your perception of market movement. 
8. Learning how to achieve and maintain a state of objectivity. 
9. Learning how to recognize "true" intuitive information and then learning how to act on it consistently.

 

 

      I like Mark Douglas and although he is no longer with us on the physical plane a lot of his books and methods live on. Here is my take on these type of things. Learn to use whatever helps you trade because the only thing that matters is if the information or guidance helps you. These ideas are not entirely just Mark Douglas's just like Steve Nison did not really invent candlestick theory ( he published it broadly here in the states maybe).  How much is your time worth to you is the question to ask yourself. When developing new skill sets you can spend years adapting by yourself but sometimes it is easier, faster and also probably cheaper when it comes to trading to pay for quality education that is valuable to you. This is just another take on this and I am aware of my difference of opinion on this with some people just trying to put both sides out there.


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#29 kaneBETA

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Posted 28 August 2017 - 04:56 AM

This thread is interesting because,

  1. Many people will reject the impulse to read it just by having a glance at the title. :angry: :angry:
  2. Nevertheless, every damn idea you give is true ! :) :)

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 05:55 AM

There are tons of posts saying how you can become millionaire and how to gain the holy grail. But none of them are telling you the truth. The truth is, you will never be successful. Be it forex, binary or anything related, you are just wasting your time.

 

Before you go ahead and scroll or close this page just after reading these first few posts, just know that that's the exact reason you are not going to have success. What did you do? You are already bored, you don't want to read the stuff because you think you know what I'm going to tell you.

 

Come on,

  • You never completed babypips school, 
  • You never follow discipline,
  • You never read psychological stuff,
  • You never demo anything too long,
  • You never spent your time understanding the charts,
  • You never tried to teach others of what you've learned,
  • You never had a money management,
  • You never learned about risk management,

If you never did any of these, how can I not say you are never going to be successful? You read these stuff online that successful people does this and that. Then you go around next 2 days trying to imitate them, then what happens? You find a new post and forget about the last one. Without consistency, you are bound to fail.

 

What you look for when you go to 60 seconds sub-forum? You don't look for indicator, you don't look for the next move, you just wish you found a way that'll let you win as you wish. You want whatever button you press on the trading terminal go as you predicted. You wish the river should follow as you wish. Ah, big wishes. Just think about how hundreds and thousands of people asks for the same wish. They all want the river to be flowing on their side. But the river can only go the direction it wants, unless someone big comes and digs it as they wish. Do you have the power to dig a river? If not, why wish for it? Why not just understand how the river works? 

 

Holy grail? Really? Like that's ever gonna be found someone like you who gives up and never learns, let alone practice. 

 

Ignorance and arrogance will only take you that far. If you give up too easily on every little step, you are not going to get up. Go and read Psychological posts, complete some school like babypips, understand the basics first. No matter what your family circumstances is, don't be afraid to read everything, then you are eligible to ask questions. Don't give up, always learn, and always practice.

 

See? What I'm telling is the same thing you've been told by others so many times that you got bored. Yet, you never did what needs to be done. Well, you will never be successful unless some miracle happens. Best of luck finding your success just like you found your next ferrari car in roadside in your dream. 

 

Don't go ahead without taking an action, reply what steps you'll take from now. You cannot prove how wrong I am by being successful without taking a step.

Tooooo true, after a few...years of circling like this, I'm back to basics, babypips.



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Posted 29 September 2017 - 06:46 PM

wanna study more and risk more so i learn and master money management. any more pdf books please.

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Posted 03 November 2017 - 07:36 AM

Maybe it's new information for some, but even if you read all the books on forex, you won't trade better. Only practice will help here. 



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Posted 03 November 2017 - 09:41 AM

Go and get a good mentor who can teach you all step of the way how he trades forex profitably.

Don't waste your time figuring everything out by yourself. It might take 5 or 10 years to be successful. 



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Posted 03 November 2017 - 02:25 PM

Maybe it's new information for some, but even if you read all the books on forex, you won't trade better. Only practice will help here. 

only practice? no brother

research and development of self and market according to experiences through practice.  


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Posted 03 November 2017 - 04:16 PM

There are tons of posts saying how you can become millionaire and how to gain the holy grail. But none of them are telling you the truth. The truth is, you will never be successful. Be it forex, binary or anything related, you are just wasting your time.

 

Before you go ahead and scroll or close this page just after reading these first few posts, just know that that's the exact reason you are not going to have success. What did you do? You are already bored, you don't want to read the stuff because you think you know what I'm going to tell you.

 

Come on,

  • You never completed babypips school, 
  • You never follow discipline,
  • You never read psychological stuff,
  • You never demo anything too long,
  • You never spent your time understanding the charts,
  • You never tried to teach others of what you've learned,
  • You never had a money management,
  • You never learned about risk management,

If you never did any of these, how can I not say you are never going to be successful? You read these stuff online that successful people does this and that. Then you go around next 2 days trying to imitate them, then what happens? You find a new post and forget about the last one. Without consistency, you are bound to fail.

 

What you look for when you go to 60 seconds sub-forum? You don't look for indicator, you don't look for the next move, you just wish you found a way that'll let you win as you wish. You want whatever button you press on the trading terminal go as you predicted. You wish the river should follow as you wish. Ah, big wishes. Just think about how hundreds and thousands of people asks for the same wish. They all want the river to be flowing on their side. But the river can only go the direction it wants, unless someone big comes and digs it as they wish. Do you have the power to dig a river? If not, why wish for it? Why not just understand how the river works? 

 

Holy grail? Really? Like that's ever gonna be found someone like you who gives up and never learns, let alone practice. 

 

Ignorance and arrogance will only take you that far. If you give up too easily on every little step, you are not going to get up. Go and read Psychological posts, complete some school like babypips, understand the basics first. No matter what your family circumstances is, don't be afraid to read everything, then you are eligible to ask questions. Don't give up, always learn, and always practice.

 

See? What I'm telling is the same thing you've been told by others so many times that you got bored. Yet, you never did what needs to be done. Well, you will never be successful unless some miracle happens. Best of luck finding your success just like you found your next ferrari car in roadside in your dream. 

 

Don't go ahead without taking an action, reply what steps you'll take from now. You cannot prove how wrong I am by being successful without taking a step.

 

Thanks a lot for making us understand what to do and how to raise awareness about the world of trading..

 

Best regards.



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Posted 09 November 2017 - 06:18 AM

There are tons of posts saying how you can become millionaire and how to gain the holy grail. But none of them are telling you the truth. The truth is, you will never be successful. Be it forex, binary or anything related, you are just wasting your time.

 

Before you go ahead and scroll or close this page just after reading these first few posts, just know that that's the exact reason you are not going to have success. What did you do? You are already bored, you don't want to read the stuff because you think you know what I'm going to tell you.

 

Come on,

  • You never completed babypips school, 
  • You never follow discipline,
  • You never read psychological stuff,
  • You never demo anything too long,
  • You never spent your time understanding the charts,
  • You never tried to teach others of what you've learned,
  • You never had a money management,
  • You never learned about risk management,

If you never did any of these, how can I not say you are never going to be successful? You read these stuff online that successful people does this and that. Then you go around next 2 days trying to imitate them, then what happens? You find a new post and forget about the last one. Without consistency, you are bound to fail.

 

What you look for when you go to 60 seconds sub-forum? You don't look for indicator, you don't look for the next move, you just wish you found a way that'll let you win as you wish. You want whatever button you press on the trading terminal go as you predicted. You wish the river should follow as you wish. Ah, big wishes. Just think about how hundreds and thousands of people asks for the same wish. They all want the river to be flowing on their side. But the river can only go the direction it wants, unless someone big comes and digs it as they wish. Do you have the power to dig a river? If not, why wish for it? Why not just understand how the river works? 

 

Holy grail? Really? Like that's ever gonna be found someone like you who gives up and never learns, let alone practice. 

 

Ignorance and arrogance will only take you that far. If you give up too easily on every little step, you are not going to get up. Go and read Psychological posts, complete some school like babypips, understand the basics first. No matter what your family circumstances is, don't be afraid to read everything, then you are eligible to ask questions. Don't give up, always learn, and always practice.

 

See? What I'm telling is the same thing you've been told by others so many times that you got bored. Yet, you never did what needs to be done. Well, you will never be successful unless some miracle happens. Best of luck finding your success just like you found your next ferrari car in roadside in your dream. 

 

Don't go ahead without taking an action, reply what steps you'll take from now. You cannot prove how wrong I am by being successful without taking a step.

I didn't approach the forex world from many time, just 2months, but with this forum and my friend that land me in this world i have learned very well that i don't know anything about it. Thanks for this post and for every suggest you'll give to us.

I'm attending the babypips school now, and i'm learning well things that i thought i understood but i never did.

 

Last thing, i'm almost good in follow discipline when i do something, but i want to learn much about the psycological thing: can you suggest me some books or blog that i can follow for this?

Thank you very much.



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Posted 14 November 2017 - 06:32 PM

I was thinking about the you are alredy bored part.

 

Theres a famous trader who made north of 40M trading in recent times, but he doesnt trade much anymore, when asked about it he said "its silly, speding time figuring what goes up what goes down"

 

Makes sense, I mean how can trading not be boring? A person has nothing better to do than sit in front of the pc hours looking at charts? :blink:



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Posted 15 November 2017 - 09:55 AM

I was thinking about the you are alredy bored part.
 
Theres a famous trader who made north of 40M trading in recent times, but he doesnt trade much anymore, when asked about it he said "its silly, speding time figuring what goes up what goes down"
 
Makes sense, I mean how can trading not be boring? A person has nothing better to do than sit in front of the pc hours looking at charts? :blink:


Trading has to be boring. No excitement or emotions should be involved. People like to be enertained but trading is not about having fun. You need to be able to watch candles for hours while maintaining a high level of discpline on a regular basis. Most people are unable to do that.
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